1 00:00:06,630 --> 00:00:04,390 well good afternoon everybody welcome to 2 00:00:08,950 --> 00:00:06,640 nasa's johnson space center for our post 3 00:00:11,430 --> 00:00:08,960 mission management team press briefing 4 00:00:12,870 --> 00:00:11,440 joining us once again is leroy kane he's 5 00:00:14,950 --> 00:00:12,880 the deputy manager of the space shuttle 6 00:00:16,950 --> 00:00:14,960 program and the chairman of the mmt and 7 00:00:18,550 --> 00:00:16,960 he'll have some comments for you and 8 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:18,560 then of course we'll take questions here 9 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:20,080 and then out on the phone bridge that 10 00:00:23,029 --> 00:00:21,760 i'll turn it over to leroy 11 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:23,039 thank you kyle 12 00:00:27,189 --> 00:00:25,119 good afternoon it's very nice to be here 13 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:27,199 with you again today i'm 14 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:28,720 pleased to report 15 00:00:32,229 --> 00:00:30,720 that the rendezvous and docking of 16 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:32,239 atlantis to the international space 17 00:00:35,590 --> 00:00:33,760 station was 18 00:00:37,510 --> 00:00:35,600 absolutely flawless this morning i think 19 00:00:39,350 --> 00:00:37,520 most of you hopefully had a chance to 20 00:00:41,110 --> 00:00:39,360 see it i personally 21 00:00:43,750 --> 00:00:41,120 felt privileged to be part of this team 22 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:43,760 as i as i watched it from my 23 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:45,760 from my post in 24 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:47,200 in the back 25 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:49,680 halls of mission control today it was uh 26 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:51,600 it was really 27 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:54,079 moving to see the final docking of the 28 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,000 shuttle to the space station so 29 00:01:00,310 --> 00:00:58,800 i believe this was the 37th docking of 30 00:01:01,510 --> 00:01:00,320 the shuttle to the international space 31 00:01:04,070 --> 00:01:01,520 station 32 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:04,080 and for atlantis it would be the 12th 33 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:05,600 time that atlantis had docked to the 34 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:07,119 station 35 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:09,040 and if you're counting over all dockings 36 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:10,840 for for atlantis 37 00:01:15,190 --> 00:01:13,200 atlantis had the most missions to the 38 00:01:17,429 --> 00:01:15,200 mir station 39 00:01:19,749 --> 00:01:17,439 tallying up seven total mir 40 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:19,759 mir flights so atlantis i believe is the 41 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:22,159 orbiter that has the most dockings to 42 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:25,040 space stations for that matter 43 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:26,799 things continue to go really well for us 44 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:29,520 it was a very good day this morning um 45 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:31,520 the crew's day continues for a couple 46 00:01:34,230 --> 00:01:33,119 more hours here before they go to bed 47 00:01:36,469 --> 00:01:34,240 and so they have a little bit more 48 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:36,479 activity but it's been a very good day 49 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:38,320 for us since i was here last to talk to 50 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:41,040 you it's been a great day for the crew 51 00:01:44,469 --> 00:01:43,119 on orbit for both the shuttle and the 52 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:44,479 station crew 53 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:46,640 as well as the entire team on the on the 54 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:48,079 ground they've just done an outstanding 55 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:49,600 job so 56 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:51,280 in the in the mission management team 57 00:01:55,350 --> 00:01:53,439 today we talked only briefly about a few 58 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:55,360 items we got a very good status overall 59 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:57,439 of how things are going i talked to you 60 00:02:01,429 --> 00:01:59,840 yesterday about the cryogenics and we're 61 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:01,439 very interested in that as we always are 62 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:03,040 but in this case we 63 00:02:06,789 --> 00:02:05,600 we would like as soon as possible to 64 00:02:08,469 --> 00:02:06,799 understand whether or not we might not 65 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:08,479 have enough margin to 66 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:10,720 to extend by one day 67 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:12,160 our friends in the space station program 68 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:14,000 are very interested in that so 69 00:02:18,390 --> 00:02:14,800 as 70 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:18,400 day and four hours of margin 71 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:20,160 approximately 72 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:23,200 and so tomorrow i believe the uh 73 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:25,840 and the space station program in the uh 74 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:27,760 in the space station international space 75 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:29,440 station program mission management team 76 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:30,560 in the morning they will begin 77 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:31,680 discussing 78 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:33,280 the plus one day and whether or not they 79 00:02:38,470 --> 00:02:35,920 want to officially request that from us 80 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:38,480 and they'll work on the exact list of uh 81 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:40,560 tasks and 82 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:42,720 and job jar items that the crew would 83 00:02:46,150 --> 00:02:44,000 perform 84 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:46,160 in the event that we were able to extend 85 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:47,440 the day so they'll be working on that 86 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:49,280 tomorrow and there's a chance we'll 87 00:02:53,270 --> 00:02:51,840 discuss that in the mmt tomorrow uh it's 88 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:53,280 a little early for me to know whether or 89 00:02:56,470 --> 00:02:54,879 not it'll be ready 90 00:02:58,309 --> 00:02:56,480 for that discussion but in any case 91 00:03:01,509 --> 00:02:58,319 it'll be the next day or two and we'll 92 00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:01,519 be able to have that discussion 93 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:02,959 the 94 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:04,879 it may have been reported to you we had 95 00:03:10,390 --> 00:03:07,519 where systems items are concerned 96 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:10,400 the crew today when they were doing the 97 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:12,640 configuration of all the all of the 98 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:14,640 on-board systems for the rendezvous and 99 00:03:19,270 --> 00:03:16,480 proximity operations 100 00:03:20,790 --> 00:03:19,280 they had a a problem with gpc3 that's 101 00:03:23,030 --> 00:03:20,800 general purpose computer number three 102 00:03:24,790 --> 00:03:23,040 those are the onboard computers 103 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:24,800 of which we have four for the primary 104 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:26,480 software system 105 00:03:30,309 --> 00:03:29,280 and so on rendezvous prox ops 106 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:30,319 day we 107 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:32,640 we do what's called expand the set and 108 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:35,040 we bring a third gpc into the set so we 109 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:37,040 have some more redundancy 110 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:39,760 for the proximity operations 111 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:41,040 and 112 00:03:45,509 --> 00:03:43,680 when the crew did that operation today 113 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:45,519 gpc3 114 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:48,560 uh had a small hiccup and it decided 115 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:50,239 that it should be 116 00:03:54,309 --> 00:03:51,840 turned itself off essentially and it 117 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:54,319 went to what we call halt 118 00:03:57,910 --> 00:03:56,480 and the signature is one whereby we're 119 00:04:00,789 --> 00:03:57,920 pretty certain that this was what we 120 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:00,799 call a switch tease condition that is to 121 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:02,959 say that when the crewman moves the 122 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:03,920 switch 123 00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:05,680 from one position to the next in this 124 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:08,159 case the what we call the mode switch 125 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:10,159 it doesn't get quite seated in the 126 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:11,680 intended 127 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:14,080 location that it's going to and so the 128 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:16,400 gpc doesn't understand 129 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:18,880 an intermittent position between the the 130 00:04:22,950 --> 00:04:21,440 two poles of the switch and so it 131 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:22,960 it shuts down and 132 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:24,800 looking at the signature as i said we're 133 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:26,400 pretty confident that's probably what we 134 00:04:31,990 --> 00:04:29,120 have here we've seen this signature on 135 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:32,000 this vehicle on this gpc before 136 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:34,720 and so that's a another indicator that 137 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:36,479 so we're not overly concerned with that 138 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:37,759 we're not actually even calling it an 139 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:39,040 anomaly yet 140 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:41,040 the team has uh 141 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:42,720 has scheduled uh 142 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:45,680 a data dump from that computer tomorrow 143 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:47,280 during the cruise day 144 00:04:50,629 --> 00:04:48,880 and that dump will give us some more 145 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:50,639 indications of the internal workings of 146 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:52,960 the gpc and what it has logged in terms 147 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:54,560 of any kind of errors and things of that 148 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:55,680 nature 149 00:05:01,909 --> 00:04:59,120 but overall not a not a concern for us 150 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:01,919 additionally uh fuel cell three the flow 151 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:03,120 meter 152 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:04,560 is uh is 153 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:07,440 has apparently has an erratic transducer 154 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:10,639 this is a very minor thing because 155 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:13,440 this transducer is a secondary cue 156 00:05:18,469 --> 00:05:16,320 to indicate the consumption of the 157 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:18,479 the cryogenics and the performance 158 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:20,720 overall of the fuel cell and we have 159 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:23,199 many other ways of determining both the 160 00:05:26,469 --> 00:05:24,880 performance and the and the cryo 161 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:26,479 consumption so it's not an issue it's a 162 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:27,840 nuisance and we've 163 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:30,080 and the team on the ground as uh 164 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:32,240 has inhibited that so that we don't get 165 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:34,400 any nuisance alarms from that 166 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:36,560 so no issue with that item 167 00:05:39,430 --> 00:05:37,360 the 168 00:05:40,950 --> 00:05:39,440 team reported that we 169 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:40,960 are following what might be a 170 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:43,039 conjunction 171 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:45,520 that is to say a piece of orbital debris 172 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:47,840 an item that between us and the station 173 00:05:51,510 --> 00:05:49,600 as a docked unit we'll need to watch out 174 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:51,520 for in the next couple days 175 00:05:56,310 --> 00:05:54,000 it looks right now like our point of 176 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:56,320 closest approach would occur on the eva 177 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:59,039 day flight day five 178 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:00,880 during the eva 179 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:03,360 however we don't really have a good pc 180 00:06:09,189 --> 00:06:06,720 on it yet and that's the probability of 181 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:09,199 of collision and so that all needs to be 182 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:11,039 computed we need to get some updated 183 00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:12,560 state vectors 184 00:06:17,189 --> 00:06:15,280 to give us the the best accurate 185 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:17,199 information uh the navigation 186 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:19,520 information about exactly where the 187 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:21,360 shuttle station combined stack is in 188 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:22,720 inertial space 189 00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:24,960 a lot of times on rendezvous day when we 190 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:25,840 dock 191 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:27,280 there are a number of perturbations in 192 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:29,520 the trajectory of both vehicles 193 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:31,759 and so we can't say with any certainty 194 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:34,479 whether we really have a conjunction 195 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:36,160 but it's a potential is what i would say 196 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:38,080 right now that we have a conjunction and 197 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:40,160 if we do then we'll do our normal we'll 198 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:41,680 work through our normal 199 00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:43,840 procedures and and processes for dealing 200 00:06:47,590 --> 00:06:46,319 with that and we'll probably know excuse 201 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:47,600 me quite a bit better by about this time 202 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:48,880 tomorrow whether that's really going to 203 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:56,230 the damage assessment team i'll just 204 00:07:00,629 --> 00:06:58,479 give you a brief status there as you 205 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,639 know the flight day 2 inspections were 206 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:02,880 all completed and preliminarily we 207 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:04,639 didn't see anything all the data was 208 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:06,160 downlinked and the team has had an 209 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:08,639 opportunity to go through all that data 210 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:10,800 there's uh 211 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:12,960 perhaps some of the final peer review 212 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:15,440 remaining on the on the wing leading 213 00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:17,440 edge in the nose cap systems but overall 214 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:18,720 they look very good and we don't have 215 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:19,840 any indications that we're going to have 216 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:21,360 any problems there 217 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:23,759 we did all but clear the uh the wing 218 00:07:28,309 --> 00:07:26,000 leading edge today in the mmt 219 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:28,319 we'll do that when we do the 220 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:30,400 the rest of the tps 221 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:33,280 in in the next day or two but 222 00:07:37,749 --> 00:07:35,759 looks very good for the rcc 223 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:37,759 on the rendezvous pitch maneuver the 224 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:40,479 data from that is nearly all on the 225 00:07:45,749 --> 00:07:43,280 ground now the 400 millimeter data the 226 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:45,759 800 millimeter data is on the ground and 227 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:47,759 the team is is reviewing all that data 228 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:49,120 we still have the thousand millimeter 229 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:51,360 data that was in the process of being 230 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:53,199 downlinked when i when i walked over 231 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:55,919 here this afternoon so i expect that to 232 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:57,599 to be on the ground here and be assessed 233 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:00,240 and we may be able to even preliminarily 234 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:02,479 give the crew some indication before 235 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:03,840 they go to sleep tonight about six 236 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:05,440 o'clock in the evening 237 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,560 um 238 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:08,319 it just depends on if if we get the rest 239 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:10,720 of the data down and get for at least an 240 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,749 the 241 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:17,039 i think i may have mentioned yesterday 242 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:18,720 the focus inspection meeting the meeting 243 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:19,680 where we 244 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:22,000 we talk about the the the dat team and 245 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:25,440 the other engineering and safety experts 246 00:08:30,950 --> 00:08:27,039 around the program get together and talk 247 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:30,960 about the likelihood or the need 248 00:08:35,909 --> 00:08:33,440 for a focused inspection and so the 249 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:35,919 first of those is is tonight 250 00:08:40,070 --> 00:08:38,159 at 5 pm local time so 251 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:40,080 look forward to to the results of that 252 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:41,919 meeting i don't anticipate that there's 253 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:43,360 anything we're going to need to look at 254 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:44,959 based on all the preliminary data we 255 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:47,839 have but we'll let everybody do our 256 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:50,640 normal process here as we always do 257 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:52,880 and then finally the 258 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:55,120 the the ascent 259 00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:56,959 trajectory and and flight dynamics 260 00:09:01,590 --> 00:08:58,720 experts came in they gave us the ascent 261 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:01,600 quick look to summary today 262 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:03,440 and it was very very good the the 263 00:09:07,910 --> 00:09:05,440 vehicle flew um 264 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:07,920 uh quite well and uh and there were no 265 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:10,720 issues uh with the ascent 266 00:09:15,190 --> 00:09:13,200 flight dynamics data to include all of 267 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:15,200 the propulsion elements 268 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:16,720 and all of the normal things that we 269 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:18,480 look at in the in the quick look data in 270 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:20,320 terms of the trajectory parameters and 271 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:21,839 the winds and all of the things that 272 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:24,160 affect the vehicle flight path 273 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:25,120 as we 274 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:28,480 ascend to orbit and so 275 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:29,839 all of that looked very good there were 276 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:32,000 a number of 277 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:34,160 problems with the 278 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:36,399 what this with the balloon system 279 00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:38,880 that we use the gym spheres and the 280 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:40,880 and the balloons that we use to uh to 281 00:09:43,590 --> 00:09:42,240 evaluate the wins in the weather on 282 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:43,600 launch day 283 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:47,680 and the team has such a robust set of 284 00:09:53,430 --> 00:09:50,480 backup procedures and down modes 285 00:09:55,509 --> 00:09:53,440 and off ramps for all of those 286 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:55,519 scenarios that it 287 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:57,360 barely made it to 288 00:10:00,470 --> 00:09:59,120 management's attention all the things 289 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:00,480 that they were working on launch day and 290 00:10:03,829 --> 00:10:02,640 they did it quite seamlessly with with 291 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:03,839 what turns out to be a pretty 292 00:10:07,350 --> 00:10:05,680 challenging day because the balloons 293 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:07,360 were tending to ice up 294 00:10:10,230 --> 00:10:09,200 at uh at some of the higher altitudes 295 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:10,240 and so 296 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:12,160 they did an outstanding job working 297 00:10:16,389 --> 00:10:14,560 through all that and again just another 298 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:16,399 example of things that were going on 299 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:18,880 behind the scenes on launch day any one 300 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:20,320 of which could have prevented us from 301 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:22,800 being able to actually launch on friday 302 00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:23,519 and 303 00:10:26,949 --> 00:10:24,880 team just did a great job all the way 304 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:26,959 around so that was a very good status 305 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:28,320 that they gave us today obviously there 306 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:30,160 will be more in-depth 307 00:10:34,310 --> 00:10:32,320 review of all of that data but as we 308 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:34,320 call it it's a quick look and and as a 309 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:37,680 quick look goes it looked very very good 310 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:39,360 um 311 00:10:44,389 --> 00:10:41,760 and uh i think 312 00:10:46,949 --> 00:10:44,399 that's about all i have to report 313 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:46,959 um i i should mention the booster ops we 314 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:48,160 have the 315 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:51,760 the port 316 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:53,440 the left-hand booster will be in the 317 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:55,040 port tonight 318 00:11:01,110 --> 00:10:57,920 and then slip-ops will occur tomorrow 319 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:01,120 with open assessment to occur on tuesday 320 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:03,120 i think i mistakenly mentioned yesterday 321 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:05,200 i think i was off by a day i was getting 322 00:11:07,670 --> 00:11:06,800 my flight days and calendar days mixed 323 00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:07,680 up 324 00:11:11,269 --> 00:11:09,120 and so 325 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:11,279 the boosters are again one is in the 326 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:12,160 port 327 00:11:14,949 --> 00:11:13,519 the left booster will be in tonight 328 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:14,959 around midnight i think is what they 329 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:16,000 said 330 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:18,000 and then we'll do slip ups tomorrow 331 00:11:21,829 --> 00:11:19,920 morning and during the day tomorrow with 332 00:11:22,630 --> 00:11:21,839 open assessment on tuesday 333 00:11:26,829 --> 00:11:22,640 so 334 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:26,839 able to expect the video from the 335 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:28,640 boosters 336 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:30,240 sometime on monday and so we'll look 337 00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:32,240 forward to that as well 338 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:34,959 so with that again in summary the the 339 00:11:39,509 --> 00:11:36,959 mission is going exceedingly well we're 340 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:39,519 very much looking forward to our 341 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:42,160 multi-purpose logistic module operations 342 00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:44,560 tomorrow where we would pull the mplm 343 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:46,079 out of the payload bay and move it over 344 00:11:48,949 --> 00:11:47,040 on to 345 00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:48,959 on the space station and get on with the 346 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:51,360 transfer of all this critical cargo in 347 00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:52,480 earnest 348 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:54,720 and the crew is finishing up with a few 349 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:56,240 items to prepare for that activity 350 00:12:00,870 --> 00:11:58,959 tomorrow to include handing off the obss 351 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:00,880 the robotic boom that we use 352 00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:02,800 ultimately tomorrow to 353 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:04,079 to help us 354 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:06,880 move the mplm over to the station and so 355 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:08,399 they're winding up their activities on 356 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:10,240 board and they're finishing up what has 357 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:11,920 been a very productive and successful 358 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:13,440 day on orbit so 359 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:15,040 with that i'd be happy to answer any 360 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:17,360 questions you have okay great take them 361 00:12:20,550 --> 00:12:19,440 here and then out on the phone bridge 362 00:12:22,069 --> 00:12:20,560 and of course 363 00:12:24,069 --> 00:12:22,079 as before you have to walk up to the 364 00:12:26,069 --> 00:12:24,079 microphone or nobody on the net is going 365 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:26,079 to be able to hear you so 366 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:28,079 spelling bee contestant number one mark 367 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:30,399 corral hey thanks uh mark crowe for 368 00:12:35,509 --> 00:12:32,720 aviation week uh do you have anything on 369 00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:35,519 the size or origin of the debris that 370 00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:37,920 you're tracking for a potential 371 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:40,160 conjunction then i had a follow-up i 372 00:12:44,550 --> 00:12:42,240 don't mark what we were told today was 373 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:44,560 very preliminary so i don't know what 374 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,079 kind of object it is i don't even know 375 00:12:52,150 --> 00:12:48,320 what the object number is most of these 376 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:52,160 objects are in our quote catalog 377 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:53,040 and 378 00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:54,480 so no i don't have that information 379 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:56,160 we'll probably have it later today or 380 00:12:59,190 --> 00:12:57,839 tomorrow 381 00:13:00,790 --> 00:12:59,200 thanks 382 00:13:02,150 --> 00:13:00,800 and i'll acknowledge this may not have 383 00:13:03,910 --> 00:13:02,160 an answer but 384 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:03,920 it seems good to ask 385 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:05,920 if you had to maneuver could you do it 386 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:07,920 without interfering with the timing of 387 00:13:11,829 --> 00:13:10,079 the space walk or with the discussion 388 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:11,839 about extending the mission if you had 389 00:13:16,389 --> 00:13:13,920 to maneuver include changing the space 390 00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:16,399 walk to accommodate that or am i way 391 00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:17,839 ahead 392 00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:18,560 well 393 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:20,880 it's okay you're a little ahead and and 394 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:23,360 that's okay um we um 395 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:25,360 in all likelihood it would not interfere 396 00:13:29,670 --> 00:13:27,360 with what we're doing on the space walk 397 00:13:32,629 --> 00:13:29,680 if we do what a debris avoidance 398 00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:32,639 maneuver uh um to get away from an 399 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:35,120 object in this case we would do it using 400 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:37,839 the shuttle vrcs the small little 401 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:39,040 thrusters 402 00:13:43,509 --> 00:13:41,360 and so in all likelihood we could do 403 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:43,519 that in an operation where it's not 404 00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:45,440 going to impact what we're trying to do 405 00:13:49,269 --> 00:13:47,519 in the normally planned 406 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:49,279 activities of the flight plan on that 407 00:13:53,430 --> 00:13:51,519 day so now having said that 408 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:53,440 until i know what it is and and what 409 00:13:58,389 --> 00:13:54,880 kind of maneuver 410 00:13:59,430 --> 00:13:58,399 and and we have all of the details 411 00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:59,440 you know 412 00:14:03,189 --> 00:14:01,360 as you said to begin with it's it's a 413 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:03,199 little ahead in that sense but generally 414 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:04,480 speaking i don't anticipate that's going 415 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:06,480 to be any issue at all 416 00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:08,639 bill bill hardwood cbs was just a it's a 417 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:10,000 related question it's almost what he 418 00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:11,920 answered in a different form the flight 419 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:14,000 rule with the box that you guys maintain 420 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:15,440 around the station 421 00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:16,880 is it the same box when the shuttle is 422 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:18,560 attached to the dimensions different and 423 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:21,360 and i don't understand um 424 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:22,639 does the rule change if there's a 425 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:23,839 spacewalk involved i don't know if 426 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:26,000 there's i don't know how evas play into 427 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:28,320 the box and what your rules are about 428 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,320 what you can and can't do it's it's a 429 00:14:34,150 --> 00:14:32,160 good question bill i 430 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:34,160 if the rule is different 431 00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:36,320 to be specific for 432 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:38,399 while we're doing a space walk 433 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:40,320 i'm not aware of that and i'll have to 434 00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:42,160 refresh my memory on the details of it 435 00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:44,320 in that regard and the team will brief 436 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:47,199 us on on all of those specifics 437 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:48,639 what they told us today was very 438 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:50,880 preliminary in terms of 439 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:52,160 we just found out that we might have a 440 00:14:56,230 --> 00:14:53,839 conjunction so i didn't have a chance to 441 00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:56,240 go back and and review those specifics i 442 00:15:00,470 --> 00:14:58,399 don't think it's different if we've got 443 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:00,480 folks outside versus not 444 00:15:04,389 --> 00:15:02,880 um but we'll we'll have those details 445 00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:04,399 tomorrow 446 00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:06,880 um genus and sarah abc news could be 447 00:15:10,550 --> 00:15:08,480 could you walk me through the process 448 00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:10,560 that you are going through now that you 449 00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:12,720 know about this conjunction what kind of 450 00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:14,639 teams are working on it what do they do 451 00:15:19,030 --> 00:15:16,240 who's involved i mean kind of would you 452 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:19,040 paint that picture for me sure gina 453 00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:20,320 the 454 00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:25,600 objects 455 00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:26,560 is 456 00:15:30,069 --> 00:15:29,040 in the mountain the spacecom folks and 457 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:30,079 and 458 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:30,880 um 459 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:33,600 or stratcom i i lose track of their name 460 00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:35,760 and it and it changes so often we can't 461 00:15:38,629 --> 00:15:37,279 even keep it correct in our flight rules 462 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:38,639 but 463 00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:40,480 at any rate that organization is 464 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:42,959 responsible for overall keeping track of 465 00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:44,399 all the objects that are that are in 466 00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:45,279 orbit 467 00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:47,360 and so we have a process where there's a 468 00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:48,880 notification 469 00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:51,279 that goes to our flight dynamics and 470 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,600 trajectory experts here 471 00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:55,839 in mission control for space station 472 00:15:59,910 --> 00:15:58,320 operations and first shuttle operations 473 00:16:02,150 --> 00:15:59,920 in the shuttle room that's the flight 474 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:02,160 dynamics officer or the fido 475 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:04,800 in the station room that's the 476 00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:06,000 topo 477 00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:08,240 which is trajectory operations and 478 00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:10,720 planning officer i believe at any rate 479 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:12,320 they perform roughly the same function 480 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:14,320 for the two different vehicles with some 481 00:16:21,269 --> 00:16:17,440 differences as you can imagine 482 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:21,279 those folks are notified and they then 483 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:23,279 notify the next level of management in 484 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:24,320 this case it would be the flight 485 00:16:28,389 --> 00:16:25,440 director 486 00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:28,399 and then depending on the timing 487 00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:29,279 and 488 00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:31,759 whether or not the event is going to 489 00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:34,160 occur in the next 24 hours or 48 hours 490 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:35,680 or 72 hours 491 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:36,480 then 492 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:38,480 the urgency and the level of 493 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:41,040 notification goes up 494 00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:44,240 as the reaction time goes down 495 00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:45,199 so 496 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:48,320 in this case we've got a couple of days 497 00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:50,800 it's a it's a few days away if you will 498 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:53,199 and so 499 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:55,120 we just got the notification today in 500 00:16:59,189 --> 00:16:57,120 the mission management team i imagine 501 00:17:01,430 --> 00:16:59,199 the mission ops team found out about it 502 00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:01,440 sometime earlier this morning 503 00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:03,519 and so there's a process of checks and 504 00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:05,439 balances between the flight dynamics 505 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:07,839 team and the folks in the mountain who 506 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:08,959 have the 507 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:13,750 state vector data if you will for all 508 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:15,280 the objects 509 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:18,400 and so then they compare their notes and 510 00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:20,240 it's an iterative process from there 511 00:17:24,549 --> 00:17:22,319 until the time of 512 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:24,559 the day or the hour of the day of 513 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:28,240 closest approach whereby we then assess 514 00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:30,640 what turns out to be the calculation for 515 00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:33,039 the probability of collision 516 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:35,600 and then based on what the pc is 517 00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:37,600 and it changes with every new vector 518 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,679 that we get 519 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:41,360 we'll take action based on what's 520 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:42,799 outlined in our flight rules and the 521 00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:44,880 guidance that's provided in those rules 522 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:46,960 so there's a notification process from 523 00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:49,600 the mountain to us and from internal to 524 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,520 the control center then it goes up the 525 00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:53,600 mission ops chain all the way up to 526 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:55,600 higher management as may be necessary in 527 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:57,440 the shuttle and or station program 528 00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:58,400 depending on whether or not there's 529 00:18:01,750 --> 00:18:00,400 going to be some action that's required 530 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:01,760 and then in addition to that of course 531 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:04,000 the station on their part they talk with 532 00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:04,720 the 533 00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:08,400 station 534 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:10,559 and then so so the notification just 535 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:11,600 goes on 536 00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:14,480 um and that's basically how it works for 537 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:16,400 a given object 538 00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:17,440 robert 539 00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:22,240 um on the subject of uh adding an extra 540 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:24,320 day to the mission uh given the the 541 00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:26,880 margins that you have now can you just 542 00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:28,480 maybe provide some examples of what 543 00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:31,360 would need to happen for you not to have 544 00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:33,039 that option any longer 545 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:34,799 when you do consider it like what would 546 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:37,120 prevent you at this point from 547 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:43,750 well if we somehow came in and and said 548 00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:46,240 well our our cryo consumable 549 00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:47,919 calculations were wrong there was 550 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,320 something we didn't take into account 551 00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:52,400 in other words we got that number wrong 552 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,640 and we are suddenly something less than 553 00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:57,120 24 hours margin then it's not something 554 00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:01,830 barring that 555 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:04,400 given that the station has a need 556 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:06,960 and a very strong desire and a need for 557 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:07,919 us to 558 00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:10,240 to add a day 559 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:12,000 if we've got the margin then i'm 560 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:15,200 probably willing to do it 561 00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,200 and there are other factors 562 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:19,120 of extending the mission 563 00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:22,480 and assuming all things are are 564 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:24,080 more or less equal with those other 565 00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:26,160 factors to include 566 00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:27,440 the crews 567 00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:28,320 um 568 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,799 schedule the crew's health the the team 569 00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:32,320 on the ground and the activities that 570 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:34,000 they would like to to complete all of 571 00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:35,919 those things that if they're otherwise 572 00:19:40,950 --> 00:19:37,919 pretty much equal then then that's about 573 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,960 the only thing that would prevent it 574 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,240 yeah 575 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:44,480 dan vegano with usa today uh leaving 576 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:46,640 aside the conjunction issue um i was 577 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:48,000 wondering if you could characterize the 578 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,160 crew's activities in the coming week um 579 00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:52,559 when we write to our readers that uh 580 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,919 they're resupplying the station that 581 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:55,280 doesn't sound like they're too busy i 582 00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:57,039 was wondering if maybe you would have a 583 00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:58,240 different perspective before you could 584 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,320 share your perspective on that well i'll 585 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:02,720 certainly try the 586 00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:05,200 they will be busy i promise you that 587 00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:06,480 and 588 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:09,919 um so tomorrow we do the the actual move 589 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:12,720 of the large mplm from the payload bay 590 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:14,960 to the space station and birth it 591 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:17,520 and then essentially open up the hatch 592 00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:19,360 at the end of at the end of that 593 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:20,559 activity 594 00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:22,080 and then the crew can begin to get in 595 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:24,640 there and start to to pull things out 596 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:27,440 and uh and actually begin the transfer 597 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,880 operations 598 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:30,480 on flight day five we have our space 599 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:32,080 walk 600 00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:35,280 and then pretty much subsequent to that 601 00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:37,679 we have a number of significant blocks 602 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:39,440 of time where we're doing 603 00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:40,960 pretty much 604 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:41,760 uh 605 00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:44,960 devoting most of our time to the the sto 606 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:47,840 the transfer stowage on on stowing and 607 00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:50,320 repacking of the of the mplm 608 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:51,840 for the things that are returning in the 609 00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,200 mplm 610 00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:55,919 so i believe it's um 611 00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:58,400 i'll give you the exact number of hours 612 00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:59,760 we've got 613 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:01,520 about 30 hours 614 00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:02,640 of 615 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:05,200 transfer for the mid deck 616 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,240 so that's 617 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,640 that's 30 man hours 30 person hours if 618 00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:10,559 you will of of work that has to be done 619 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:12,720 to transfer items where the mid deck 620 00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:15,600 alone is concerned and we've got some 621 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:18,159 nearly 130 hours of multi-purpose 622 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:20,640 logistic module transfer 623 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:21,679 so 624 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:24,640 if you play all that out across 625 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,720 an eight or so docked day mission 626 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:30,640 plus a day or so 627 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,320 and then you divide that up between the 628 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:33,760 crew members that we have you can see 629 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:36,240 that in addition to the other normally 630 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,760 scheduled things that we do for any 631 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,760 shuttle station dock mission 632 00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:41,280 we're going to be able to keep them 633 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:42,640 pretty busy 634 00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:45,840 and so as is per normal 635 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:47,520 the space station program and again i 636 00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:49,120 mentioned earlier 637 00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:50,240 they will 638 00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:52,799 talk about this a good deal in their 639 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,679 station mmt tomorrow morning i believe 640 00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:57,600 they will as per normal they will have a 641 00:22:02,149 --> 00:21:59,120 couple of 642 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,159 job jar items undoubtedly 643 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,760 on the space station side that they 644 00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,240 would ask for our help with in the event 645 00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:08,400 that we're able to extend a day 646 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:10,880 so it's kind of like your list that you 647 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,880 have at home right there are always 648 00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:14,480 things there's always work to do on the 649 00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,679 house 650 00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:17,679 it doesn't matter how much you've done 651 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,280 already or 652 00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:22,000 or how new or how old the house is 653 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,559 there's always a list of things to do 654 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:26,400 sometimes it 655 00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:28,000 they're wish list items that you may 656 00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:29,679 never do 657 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:31,120 and other times they're obviously items 658 00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,799 that are maintenance items or otherwise 659 00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:34,640 that you're definitely going to do 660 00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,919 and they have the same kind of thing on 661 00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,280 the space station 662 00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:39,039 and so 663 00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:40,880 i mentioned that just to say that in 664 00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:42,159 addition to 665 00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,760 the additional work that we could do in 666 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,360 terms of stowage and then setting up 667 00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,919 things on the station side of all of the 668 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,360 of all of the uh 669 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:51,520 the cargo that we're bringing up 670 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,840 they will have 671 00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:55,039 unrelated job jar items that they will 672 00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:56,240 ask us to do and they will be 673 00:23:03,110 --> 00:22:59,280 prioritized and i'm 674 00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:04,310 to 675 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,559 have very productive work for our 676 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,480 four-person crew to do if we if we 677 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:10,720 should extend a day 678 00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:12,159 if i could ask a second question i was 679 00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:13,440 wondering if could you put the 680 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,880 conjunction a little bit of perspective 681 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,320 you know there was the 682 00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,960 flyby a week or so ago 683 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,799 you know our readers might suddenly 684 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,240 think the thing is being bombarded could 685 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,080 you sort of you know 686 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:26,320 how often does this come up 687 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,600 well i don't have a number for you in 688 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:29,120 terms of how often 689 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,480 it's um 690 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:32,960 it's not uncommon 691 00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,640 there's a lot of junk in in orbit and 692 00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:38,240 there are a lot of objects that are 693 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,919 being tracked and we have a very good 694 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:41,600 process for 695 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:42,720 for 696 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,600 to avoid them in the in the cases where 697 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,039 we need to avoid them 698 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:51,600 so it's not uncommon 699 00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:54,480 and and what you see happening is in 700 00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:55,840 part anyway 701 00:24:02,390 --> 00:23:58,159 we have a number of objects that are 702 00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:02,400 essentially spent rocket bodies or other 703 00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:05,200 ranging in size of space debris 704 00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,960 and over time these things will drag 705 00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,880 down from their from their original 706 00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:10,080 orbits 707 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:11,679 and so 708 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:14,320 in some cases um 709 00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:15,840 there's a 710 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,240 debris we see in the orbits that we 711 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,320 worry about over time 712 00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,240 and that'll change it's not a constant 713 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:26,240 it changes because things drag down and 714 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:27,520 they go away 715 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,640 it changes because new things 716 00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:32,400 are in the orbit 717 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:33,520 and 718 00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,320 so 719 00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:36,240 it's not a a constant that happens once 720 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:38,000 a day or twice a week or a hundred times 721 00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:38,960 a year 722 00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:41,279 um it's not unusual for us to have to 723 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:43,120 deal with it we're having to deal with 724 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:44,960 it more than we did 725 00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,360 10 years ago i don't know what it'll be 726 00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:49,520 like 10 years from now but there are a 727 00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,320 lot of experts that that could uh 728 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:54,640 um could give us those prediction and 729 00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,440 have given us those us in the larger 730 00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,760 sense of a space community given those 731 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,200 predictions to us 732 00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:03,039 and will continue to do so as we go 733 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,320 forward so space debris is an issue and 734 00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:08,559 it's one of the things that as an agency 735 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:10,799 we have some ideas about 736 00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:12,480 about how we might approach this for 737 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:13,840 future vehicles 738 00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:16,159 and some ways to to manage things and 739 00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:18,320 it's something that's constantly uh it's 740 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,029 denise 741 00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:27,110 um just a quick clarification and then a 742 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,559 follow-up um 743 00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:30,720 did your team first receive notification 744 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,200 of this potential conjunction this 745 00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:35,679 afternoon or this morning 746 00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:37,039 i believe it was this morning i have to 747 00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:38,480 assume it was this morning i have an 748 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:40,000 exact time for you because i didn't ask 749 00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:41,360 for the exact time 750 00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,799 but i have to assume it was this morning 751 00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:45,279 because i just found out at the mmt and 752 00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,039 right after lunchtime 753 00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:49,840 um and then what's the latest time that 754 00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:51,039 you would 755 00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:52,880 want to have a definitive decision about 756 00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:55,840 the adding an extra day 757 00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,200 we have a little bit of time to talk the 758 00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:01,919 the team has indicated that if we should 759 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:04,000 add the plus one day for the doctor 760 00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:06,080 mission they would like to insert it 761 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,880 after 762 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,960 what is today flight day eight in the 763 00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:10,880 nominal timeline 764 00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:13,360 so in order to do that and to do it 765 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,200 efficiently and effectively 766 00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:16,960 you'd really like to start having that 767 00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,440 in the new timeline that you published 768 00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:21,679 to the crew on board around about flight 769 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,279 day six 770 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:25,039 and so if i back up from that it'd be 771 00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,640 nice to make a decision by fly day five 772 00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,480 it's probably not necessarily required 773 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:32,320 before flight day six 774 00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:34,240 but i don't see any reason we're not 775 00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:35,360 going to be able to make that decision 776 00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:36,799 in the next day or two so it kind of 777 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:42,230 okay let's go take a couple of uh phone 778 00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:45,760 bridge call in uh questions marcia dunn 779 00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:53,830 can you hear me there yeah go ahead 780 00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:55,440 yes i'm wondering is there any kind of 781 00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,240 early word on just how close that piece 782 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:00,400 of debris might come to the shuttle 783 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,470 i don't have any information beyond what 784 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,480 i've already told you marcia it was a 785 00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:10,240 preliminary indication that we may have 786 00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:12,320 a conjunction we didn't have an initial 787 00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:13,520 pc 788 00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:15,039 a probability of collision because we 789 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,400 didn't have good enough state vector 790 00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:18,480 information to compute that yet 791 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,840 and so um next time i talk to you we'll 792 00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:23,520 have quite a bit more data on that and 793 00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,559 probably 794 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:26,640 in the interim as well i just don't have 795 00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,480 anything uh today in terms of pc 796 00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,320 what is the earliest 797 00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:34,080 that the 798 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,039 shuttle 799 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:37,360 station might perform the avoidance 800 00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,960 maneuver might it happen tomorrow would 801 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,880 you tend to wait until uh tuesday 802 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:42,640 morning 803 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,000 it it it all depends on what the actual 804 00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,720 timing of the event is marcia there's a 805 00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,919 good chance that 806 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:51,600 we might do something very late in the 807 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,960 day tomorrow 808 00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,440 but that means we'd have to have 809 00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:57,039 a lot of data pretty quickly that we 810 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,480 could iterate on 811 00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,919 and i don't know what kind of object it 812 00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:01,279 is i don't know what kind of orbit it's 813 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,679 in whether it's in a circular orbit or 814 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:05,600 in all likelihood it's it's not circular 815 00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:07,600 it's somewhat elliptical 816 00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:10,159 it depends on the orbit it depends on 817 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:11,760 which direction it's coming from there 818 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,830 when we would want to do a maneuver 819 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:19,440 but i would tell you it's possible we 820 00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,720 could do something as 821 00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:22,640 as early as late tomorrow 822 00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,600 um i just don't have enough data to tell 823 00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:27,440 you any more than that because i i don't 824 00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:28,840 know enough about the object in the 825 00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:31,840 orbit thank you 826 00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:33,760 see todd halverson florida today todd 827 00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,190 uh yes i am kyle thanks um 828 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:41,840 uh leroy i was wondering if you could 829 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:44,640 elaborate a little bit about the process 830 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:46,480 you'll go through with the solid rocket 831 00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:48,320 boosters once they 832 00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:52,799 are back in port and over at hanger af 833 00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:55,840 and what ultimately is going to happen 834 00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:57,919 with these two 835 00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:00,799 solid rocket boosters are they going to 836 00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:03,120 stay at ksc are they going to utah could 837 00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:09,909 well the normal process in the slip 838 00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,320 operations is to begin to prepare the 839 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,640 boosters so that you can 840 00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:16,880 take them out of the water obviously and 841 00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,440 then disassemble them 842 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:22,159 the what we refer to as the the the 843 00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,360 booster 844 00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:25,360 aspects of the overall solid rocket 845 00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:27,440 motor or you know the the 846 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,240 the nose cone and the nozzle and and 847 00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,840 things that that you can actually 848 00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:34,000 physically take apart and take off of 849 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:35,440 the top and the bottom of the rocket if 850 00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,480 you will 851 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,399 um and then open assessment gets a 852 00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,000 little bit more involved in terms of 853 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,880 actually looking inside the motor 854 00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,880 ultimately these motors will 855 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:46,399 the current plan is that they will go 856 00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:48,880 back to atk 857 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,080 in utah 858 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:52,080 and i don't know the details of their 859 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,190 okay i think that's awesome thanks 860 00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:59,440 that's all for me kyle okay uh we're 861 00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:00,640 back here and everybody have any 862 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:01,760 follow-ups 863 00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,480 all right a couple of programming notes 864 00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:06,320 uh the crew heads to bed as leroy 865 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:08,159 mentioned around six o'clock today 866 00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,600 central time 867 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,520 flight day three highlights start at 868 00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:13,120 eight o'clock central 869 00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:14,960 and of course that'll be on the hour 870 00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,360 every hour except for one hour we'll 871 00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,840 play the launching our dream special 872 00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,600 space shuttle program video if you 873 00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:23,039 haven't seen that take a look at that 874 00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:26,000 that will be at 10 pm 875 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,399 the next mission status briefing is at 8 876 00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:30,799 30 tomorrow morning so a little earlier 877 00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,960 than usual 878 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,399 and 879 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,399 the next mmt briefing we'll have is 880 00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:38,480 tomorrow afternoon at three same time 881 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:39,919 after the meeting which is at one 882 00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:42,559 o'clock central um it's all out there on 883 00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,320 a nasa television schedule we're up to 884 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:45,840 rev c 885 00:30:51,070 --> 00:30:48,399 right now so be sure to look for that 886 00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:51,080 out on the web at 887 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:55,039 www.nasa.gov slash shuttle tv 888 00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:56,159 and 889 00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:58,000 we'll again we'll be back here tomorrow 890 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:00,320 after the mmt so thanks a lot leroy and 891 00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:01,760 thanks everybody we'll head back to 892 00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:13,830 hi i'm michelle savoie lawrence baitland 893 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:16,240 i'm faith knutson i'm taylor rasca i'm 894 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,640 julie bryce field i'm erica halsey and 895 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:20,240 we're the biomedical flight controllers